[CarGuyDaryl]

PHEVs have advanced quite a bit since then. Ours gets 21 miles on a single charge and ~30 mph as a hybrid if you never charge it. Also, this is for a 5,103 lbs, 3-row SUV (our Ascent was 4,499 lbs). The newer model of of our PHEV gets 32 miles on a single charge.

FWIW, I am 100% with you on preferring Ascent over a 2012 PHEV Prius, regardless of gas mileage The Ascent is a great car.

What PHEV did you go to? Our lease is up next summer (2026) and we are waiting to see what hits the market. We are in the same boat with 16 mpg usually with my wife's habits and 23-24 on an actual road trip.

I want to like the CX90 (they had incredible lease deals for a while) but the inside is just not big enough and the hybrid/transmission setup seems to not be fully baked.

 

[madtowner]

Yes, CX90 looks very attractive (and I had owned a CX7 with 0 reliability issues for a decade), but we also read the horror stories about the PHEV. Also, the CX90 interior is nicely designed for the driver and the passenger, and not so much for the people in the 2-3 rows.

We went with the Volvo XC90 Recharge. 2023 and newer models have the extended range (32 miles), but the prices were out of our range. We monitored Carmax for a slightly older model and found a very clean 2021 that has everything we need. It's been 6 weeks, and so far we really like it!

(DM me if you want exact specs, price, etc.)

 

[pdxeca]

I didn't get a picture of it, but I recently refilled at the bottom of the "hill" I live on (It's an 11,000' mountain). I live on the extreme northern flank of the mountain and filled up roughly 13 gallons, a couple of miles from my house, after driving back down from ~6000'. The MTE range when I reset the trip meter read 750 miles. I coasted down the additional 5 miles and 750' to near sea level, into town and got up to 770 miles on the range.

I wound up getting about 350 miles on that tank in the real world...but it was fun for a few minutes.

 

[Daniel Acosta]

Just finished a 295 mile leg from Islamorada to Orlando Florida. Overall trip was 28 mpg. The first 80 miles were on US1 thru the keys to Miami. Traffic was light with speed limits of 45 to 50 observed. US1 has traffic lights. That leg started with a fillup of 87 octane Mobil and right onto US1. Sorry, no pic but the average for that leg was 36 mpg. Then onto the FL Turnpike where speeds ranged from 60 to 80. There were 3 rest stops / engine restarts. Pulled into my driveway after slogging thru 20 minutes of gridlock local traffic with the final tally of 28 mpg. I did absolutely no heroic hyper miling, just cruised sometimes using CC, mostly not.
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If you use the fuelly.com app you'll have a record of every tank. It's also useful for seeing how accurate your car mileage display is compared to what you measure at the pump. Our Outback 2.5 is about 4% optimistic, our Ascent is better, only about 2% optimistic.

No real secret to our gas mileage. We don't use remote start, even though we're in Phoenix: open the windows for 15 seconds to let the hot air out, close the windows and within a minute the car has cooled down; remote start trying to cool all that trapped hot air takes a lot longer and uses a lot of fuel. Short two mile trips yield low mileage just like everybody else; once the trip length gets above 5 miles the mileage starts to climb. We would still like a hybrid Ascent to bring up the mileage on the short trips, hopefully Subaru will offer that for the 27 or 28 model year.

 

[Titanrx8]

If you use the fuelly.com app you'll have a record of every tank. It's also useful for seeing how accurate your car mileage display is compared to what you measure at the pump. Our Outback 2.5 is about 4% optimistic, our Ascent is better, only about 2% optimistic.
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No real secret to our gas mileage. We don't use remote start, even though we're in Phoenix: open the windows for 15 seconds to let the hot air out, close the windows and within a minute the car has cooled down; remote start trying to cool all that trapped hot air takes a lot longer and uses a lot of fuel. Short two mile trips yield low mileage just like everybody else; once the trip length gets above 5 miles the mileage starts to climb. We would still like a hybrid Ascent to bring up the mileage on the short trips, hopefully Subaru will offer that for the 27 or 28 model year.

I record my fillups the same way I've done it for over 50 years, in a log book. Then periodically I transfer to a spreadsheet. The calculated mileage is usually a few tenths short of the dash. Not enough to care.

Like you, in nearly 6 years of Ascent ownership, I almost never use remote start. I think maybe once when I actually remembered that I can do that.

 

[Daniel Acosta]

I record my fillups the same way I've done it for over 50 years, in a log book. Then periodically I transfer to a spreadsheet. The calculated mileage is usually a few tenths short of the dash. Not enough to care.

Like you, in nearly 6 years of Ascent ownership, I almost never use remote start. I think maybe once when I actually remembered that I can do that.

I used to have a gas mileage logbook in each car and a folded pocket calendar in my pocket. I finally succumbed to the digital age and track mileage with the fuelly app, along with another calendar app for my appointments. The digital calendar works out especially well because my wife and I share calendars, which makes it easier to coordinate activities.

 

[Titanrx8]

I used to have a gas mileage logbook in each car and a folded pocket calendar in my pocket. I finally succumbed to the digital age and track mileage with the fuelly app, along with another calendar app for my appointments. The digital calendar works out especially well because my wife and I share calendars, which makes it easier to coordinate activities.

If you've ever been audited by the IRS, paper rules. Paper logs are contemporaneous, considered permanent records and the added bonus, especially hard for the auditor to search. I drove 100k miles regularly and substantiated every mile, every toll, every fillup, repair, etc right in the log. Never lost an audit.

I had electronics since day one. The original Palm Pilot when it was still a prototype. I was in the industry. Just never brought electronics to an audit.

Now, I mostly avoid apps to minimize my hackable footprint.