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Yeah I noticed that as well. I'm dubious of that claim for sure. I'm also not really interested in any 'tuning' beyond what comes OTS on @COBB accessport. As mentioned above I'd be all over an air intake/hood upgrade with there was AP support. At this point it's only performance styling, absolutely. But I think it looks great. Somewhat similar to the Durango SRT hood scoop, which I love. That was on my list when shopping for the Ascent, but so many reasons to NOT by that. I'm also curious about the pricing, might consider it down the road after a few other mods.
I too was very reluctant on the marketing, but then I noticed in the FAQ section that they stipulate an increase of 30hp at the wheels. That claim is specific enough for those that care. I am not in a position to evaluate it, but I assume that regardless of the air flow measurements if the hp at the wheels are increased by 30 before/after then that is what counts for performance. They do clearly state that they strongly recommend a tune up after the install to maximize the performance increase.
I am curious through what mechanism that hood would increase HP. I wonder if that's a copy/paste holdover from another product. The Ascent air ducts are still in the grill, below the hood, and, all the scoop is feeding is the intercooler.

It looks great, but the Ascent isn't really the kind of car that you would expect to see with a hood scoop. I'm surprised they targeted the Ascent for this kind of accessory.
Well, Primitive and others gambled in the interest in using these off-road - as did Subaru when they lifted it, instead of going the Legacy route (remember, the Leggy rarely came lifted, and when the Outback was born off the Leggy, it wasn't either). The Ascent started lifted. And then a bunch of us started looking at performance. Later, COBB realized there was a market and made the Accessport for the Ascent.

The regular suspects in Subaru performance mods are all jumping on the bandwagon, so, there's not-too-surprisingly a market for a performance off road capable 7/8 seater Subaru.

At first, I kinda thought I'd be the only one lifting my Ascent and putting all terrains on it, and using it off-roading. I was pleasantly (and rather quickly) surprised when I saw the interest. I think COBB opened up another door, especially as people are seeing what the FA24DIT can do. I also think I am the first person to call it an FA24DIT - and then repeated it a gazillion times to emphasize the fact that it has a direct injection turbo. I was really baffled when it was called an FA24, with no differentiation, considering the FA20 (non turbo BRZ) origins. But, it emphasized the performance aspect the Ascent was capable of. As a matter of fact, one of the first things I did was to showcase that right on my car by putting on a DIT emblem shortly after I got it.

It's really the FA24F by the way.

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...and you have to get it painted once it arrives, right?

It's not ram engine induction. It only changes airflow through the intercooler and can only possibly increase power by improving induction cooling. Whether it improves or worsens that air flow/cooling remains to be seen.

And, as I mentioned, even if it does improve induction cooling in some circumstances, it's up to the ECU as to what effect that will have.
 
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I am curious through what mechanism that hood would increase HP. I wonder if that's a copy/paste holdover from another product. The Ascent air ducts are still in the grill, below the hood, and, all the scoop is feeding is the intercooler.
The quote that was posted from the company's FAQ was for a different vehicle and engine, a different part/accessory, and with a tune.

I see in their FAQ "In an actual dyno test with the Smartflow Shroud on a fully stock STI, a tune with stock boost, we see more than a 30hps difference on the wheels before/after "
So that is; a Smartflow shroud not a hood scoop, an STI, and with a tune.

Think of the shroud as pushing more air into the intake.


I see no claims from the manufacturer that that hood does anything for Ascent performance.
 
So what IS the the price of this incredibly awesome and amazing looking hood which I will buy regardless of whether or not it does anything besides look like the arm candy it probably is?
 
The quote that was posted from the company's FAQ was for a different vehicle and engine, a different part/accessory, and with a tune.


So that is; a Smartflow shroud not a hood scoop, an STI, and with a tune.

Think of the shroud as pushing more air into the intake.


I see no claims from the manufacturer that that hood does anything for Ascent performance.
thanks for delving into it. that is the concern as they skirt the line with their claim by using faux performance, but again, if someone wants to pay for it just for the look, have at it.
 
So a specific tuning is needed to work with the hood?
Makes sense since there would be more air entering the scoop which is located closer to the intercooler as well.Compared to the current OEM design in which the air enters the front of the grill through a much smaller opening then navigates the duct then onto the intercooler.
Still Kool looking! 🙌🏾
 
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thanks for delving into it. that is the concern as they skirt the line with their claim by using faux performance, but again, if someone wants to pay for it just for the look, have at it.
Someone took info from FAQs related to another product and posted it as if it was in regard to this product. The company did not do that. I see zero claims about the hood and performance on the company's webpage for the hood.
 
Someone took info from FAQs related to another product and posted it as if it was in regard to this product. The company did not do that. I see zero claims about the hood and performance on the company's webpage for the hood.
I made thar error. I was writing a post expressing my concern there were no performance metrics presented. As I continued looking all over their site I noticed the faq and saw the performance hp increase but I failed to notice they were talking about a different product. I did note in my post how I know little about the engineering of these things so I included links to hp engineering. I guess my original concern was correct but my revised post included my error of confusing the parts.
 
Looks like this is the same hood someone posted about in the 2019+ Subaru Ascent Owners FB page a while back. They're quite pricey or I would've dove right in with my rona money
 
$1,300 before shipping and painting.
Reminds me of my first new vehicle in 1987 (Ford f150 4X4). I learned it did not come with a rear bumper. How strange I thought that I would have to pay extra for it, which I did. In this case, my Ascent fortunately came with a hood, so I will choose to leave well enough alone. :LOL:
 
I simply love it,if only my wallet would agree I would purchase one tomorrow.This look to me would be like honoring the heritage of the STi performance division past & present.I believe it would definitely make our Ascents standout in a crowded market and be the envy of the group.
Toyota has a non- functioning scoop on their Tacomas ,while it looks good I say to myself...”why,it’s fake!”.Thats like putting a scoop on a Honda.If it serves a function fine ,if it don’t then leave it alone.There’s a reason why this company introduced this product...functionality & tradition.
My $.02 ,thank you.
Does the scoop make it more difficult to see over the front of the Ascent? That would be my only concern. That is one of the problems with the hood scoop on the Tacoma.
 
Does the scoop make it more difficult to see over the front of the Ascent? That would be my only concern. That is one of the problems with the hood scoop on the Tacoma.
Based on the photo in the OP, it doesn't look like it projects very high and the front of the hood is still at "normal" height.
 
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