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Transmission concern

339 views 15 replies 7 participants last post by  Robert.Mauro  
#1 ·
I have a 2019 Subaru Ascent.
32000 miles.
Dealer maintained.
This vehicle is not our primary, and can sit literally for weeks.
After sitting a couple weeks, 1st time I go to drive it out of our garage, when I put it in reverse, the transmission "will not engage/slips". Just 1st time after starting.
It takes multiple seconds, I rev the engine, it goes no where, and finally begins to move.
Dealer says this is typical for this type transmission.
I am very concerned about the transmission, as well, understand there is a recall on them.
Is this typical?
What do you suggest I do?
 
#6 ·
I also have a 2019 and have never experienced that problem. Have you done all of the factory recalls and technical service bulletins for the transmission? If not, do that. I’ve had my transmission worked on 3 times for those.
 
#7 ·
After sitting for extended period, have you waited 20 to 30 seconds after starting before putting into gear? The CVT uses high pressure hydraulics to clamp the variators. If you still experience the issue after waiting, then you might have a more serious problem but if waiting fixes the issue it might just need a new hydraulic pump rather than a complete CVT replacement.
 
#16 ·
Thanks.
No they did not explain this to me. So this could be somewhat normal?
Yes, it's possible. The entire system will depressurize, and the fluid will all sink to the bottom of the CVT, requiring it to refill the valve body and pressurize various systems.

There are a lot of factors that would require looking at the data. For instance, the Input Clutch usually engages at 400 rpm, but, if pressures are too low elsewhere, it will not. That means no power to the variators. Once the pressure is high enough to clamp the chain and input RPM is 400 RPM or higher, the input clutch will engage and then the system will pump up the reverse brake allowing reverse (or forward clutch to allow "Drive").

The CVT builds up over 150,000 PSI of pressure to regulate chain clamping pressure, and the valve bodies and other systems need to pressurize too.
 
#11 ·
Thanks. I am going to try this next time. How do I know when it’s ok to put it in gear.
Some people wait until the idle drops but I never have. I start, put on my seat belt and back out of garage. 20 seconds for me but I live in warm Florida.
Thanks.
No they did not explain this to me. So this could be somewhat normal?
Not necessarily normal since there should be some residual clamping pressure and it should build quickly once started. I offer this in the spirit of not jumping straight to the OMG I need a new transmission. There are only a few repairs to the CVT that a dealer will make before going to the replacement route and I believe the hydraulic pump is one that dealers can do.
 
#12 ·
I don't even wait 10 seconds many times before putting my Ascent into gear and driving off...
 
#13 ·
Considering how many times I've read that people get locked out of their Ascent because they shifted out of park too quickly, it seems some owners are putting into gear while the starter is still cranking.
 
#15 ·
Mine already started.
And transmission doesn’t respond for “multiple seconds”.
Hah! I'm not that quick off the mark! I just don't wait very long much of the time if I'm alone. If Professor Dr. SWMBO is coming along for the drive, then it can take a minute or so because her health issues make for challenges with her seatbelt.