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Been out all day in northern WV. Was 8 degrees when I left this morning and 12 degrees now. It snowed a lot over the weekend, but my girlfriend had a doctor's appointment she's been waiting six months on, so I figured it would be a good day to test the tires. Some of the roads were in very crappy conditions, and it was super cold, as well as snowy. These tires did a great job. I had them on packed snow, slush, and ice most of the day and they did great. Half of the parking lot at CVS hadn't been touched, so there was some snow probably six to eight inches deep, that I couldn't pass up, as well.

I was kind of wondering if I REALLY needed to spend that much cash on tires, but after today I am glad I went with these rather than cheaper ones. I'm sure I would have been perfectly happy with the CC2 as well. They definitely have more real world data on them and may be a better tire, but I'm sure I'd be happy with either those or these Goodyears.
 
yesterday it snowed 8 inches where i live. unfortunately i was in the hospital with my daughter so i couldn't test out the tires. quite a bummer
Hope she's OK!


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Been out all day in northern WV. Was 8 degrees when I left this morning and 12 degrees now. It snowed a lot over the weekend, but my girlfriend had a doctor's appointment she's been waiting six months on, so I figured it would be a good day to test the tires. Some of the roads were in very crappy conditions, and it was super cold, as well as snowy. These tires did a great job. I had them on packed snow, slush, and ice most of the day and they did great. Half of the parking lot at CVS hadn't been touched, so there was some snow probably six to eight inches deep, that I couldn't pass up, as well.

I was kind of wondering if I REALLY needed to spend that much cash on tires, but after today I am glad I went with these rather than cheaper ones. I'm sure I would have been perfectly happy with the CC2 as well. They definitely have more real world data on them and may be a better tire, but I'm sure I'd be happy with either those or these Goodyears.
I think what's going to be interesting is where the industry goes as the 3PMSF "All Weather/All Season" tires gain more popularity.

"Performance Winters" used to fill the gap between the most winter-capable non-3PMSF "All Season" tire and "Studless Ice & Snows." Now, with tires like the CC2 literally knocking at the door of "Performance Winters" ( witness: The BEST Performance Winter Tyres for 2024 / 2025 - Tyre reviews and ratings ), I find myself really wondering what will happen to this particular tire category, as the 3PMSF "All Weather/All Seasons" continue to advance and improve.
 
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TyreReviews.UK just came out with their latest comparison test -


Looks like the CC2 is still the benchmark to beat in wintry conditions, and that the Goodyear WeatherReady2's is not nearly as strong of a performer in this area as the CC2, although it is very, very competitive in clear conditions.
 
TyreReviews.UK just came out with their latest comparison test -


Looks like the CC2 is still the benchmark to beat in wintry conditions, and that the Goodyear WeatherReady2's is not nearly as strong of a performer in this area as the CC2, although it is very, very competitive in clear conditions.
TyreReviews.UK just came out with their latest comparison test -


Looks like the CC2 is still the benchmark to beat in wintry conditions, and that the Goodyear WeatherReady2's is not nearly as strong of a performer in this area as the CC2, although it is very, very competitive in clear conditions.
Thanks for the link, just got done reading the article.
 
Not a surprise.
I honestly had higher hopes, but hey, every manufacturer tunes their tires for different things.

Being that the margins really aren't that wide in all except ice-braking (where, particularly as TyreReviews's tester, John, extrapolated at-speed), it again goes to show how folks need to look carefully at the data, re-weigh for what they think is important, and make their own decisions.
 
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I honestly had higher hopes, but hey, every manufacturer tunes their tires for different things.

Being that the margins really aren't that wide in all except ice-braking (where, particularly as TyreReviews's tester, John, extrapolated at-speed), it again goes to show how folks need to look carefully at the data, re-weigh for what they think is important, and make their own decisions.
i am a little disappointed with the results. but i am still happy with my purchase. didnt have much snow. @patrick2099 whats your opinion?
 
i am a little disappointed with the results. but i am still happy with my purchase. didnt have much snow.
Don't be too disappointed.

If you don't experience much snow to begin with, then that's already shifting the weighing of the results in your favor.

Next, notice that in the winter categories, the percentage delta really wasn't that big.

Don't just look at numerical placement. What tire is "#1" either overall or in any specific category is really just for bragging rights at the bar, bench-racing.

Really look at the hard data. That's the real trick. That's where the real difference lies.

Take that hard data and then translate it to your life: not in how you want your reality to be, but rather in how your reality actually IS. Sure, it's great to get a tire that performs awesome in snow, when it snows in your area. But if it rarely snows, then logic dictates that you'd be better off -that you'd be safer- a larger portion of the time if you'd instead choose a tire that maximizes performance under those conditions instead.

I'm a tire nut.

Furthermore, as you can see from searching either my posts here or on virtually any online Subaru Forum and other social media that I'm a total sucker for winter tires.

But at the same time, I believe that we Subaru enthusiasts tend to "push" winter tires too, too much.

Not everyone needs -or even should have- winter tires. Not everyone needs to have an All-Season/All-Weather tire that actually performs well when there's wintry precipitation on the ground.
 
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