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Hello, my wife is needing new tires for her 2020 ascent 245/50/20. I was looking at pirelli scorpion all season verde II but they are pretty pricey. A dealer here in town recommended good year assurance max life tires or Toyo Open Country Q/T tires both American made. Any recommendations for tires? We are looking for a good all season tire
 

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Spend some time here in this forum area reading all the tire recommendations... ;) Your shopping list will be comprehensive for sure. And I don't recommend the Pirelli you mentioned.

Many folks are choosing All-Weather tires instead of All-Season tires at this point if they have four seasons including the colder ones. The two types are not the same thing.

I'd be on Michelin Defender LTX if they were available in OEM size for the 20" wheels. Since they are not, I opted for the BFG Advantage T/A Sport which is All-Weather, M&S+3 Peaks.
 
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Spend some time here in this forum area reading all the tire recommendations... ;) Your shopping list will be comprehensive for sure. And I don't recommend the Pirelli you mentioned.

Many folks are choosing All-Weather tires instead of All-Season tires at this point if they have four seasons including the colder ones. The two types are not the same thing.

I'd be on Michelin Defender LTX if they were available in OEM size for the 20" wheels. Since they are not, I opted for the BFG Advantage T/A Sport which is All-Weather, M&S+3 Peaks.
How’s the road noise on those? I heard they are a little noisy.
 

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How’s the road noise on those? I heard they are a little noisy.
I don't notice any noise...even with my hearing aids in. :) Not really different than the OEM shoes so far.
 
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Spend some time here in this forum area reading all the tire recommendations... ;) Your shopping list will be comprehensive for sure. And I don't recommend the Pirelli you mentioned.

Many folks are choosing All-Weather tires instead of All-Season tires at this point if they have four seasons including the colder ones. The two types are not the same thing.

I'd be on Michelin Defender LTX if they were available in OEM size for the 20" wheels. Since they are not, I opted for the BFG Advantage T/A Sport which is All-Weather, M&S+3 Peaks.
I am considering going to 235/55R20 - had that size Bizzaks all winter and they rode better and handled better than the OEMs.

Opinion on size change?

What is your objection to the Pirelli Scorpion all season Verde II?
 

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I am considering going to 235/55R20 - had that size Bizzaks all winter and they rode better and handled better than the OEMs.

Opinion on size change?
If the diameter is different than the OEM and you're fine with your speed/odo not being accurate as well as incurring the cost of a new spare that matches the diameter of the four tire's you're running, go for it. Just make sure they have the same load rating. If they are the same diameter as OEM, then no issue. Narrower tires are often better in winter because of how tires work in snow, but that's not necessarily a good thing for "fair weather" performance.

What is your objection to the Pirelli Scorpion all season Verde II?
Poorest wear performance of four different tires on my previous vehicle. And yes, it was the previous version, but it turned me off to them. I like tires that wear slowly. :) Maybe the current version is better...I don't know.
 

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Spend some time here in this forum area reading all the tire recommendations... ;) Your shopping list will be comprehensive for sure. And I don't recommend the Pirelli you mentioned.

Many folks are choosing All-Weather tires instead of All-Season tires at this point if they have four seasons including the colder ones. The two types are not the same thing.

I'd be on Michelin Defender LTX if they were available in OEM size for the 20" wheels. Since they are not, I opted for the BFG Advantage T/A Sport which is All-Weather, M&S+3 Peaks.
why don't you like the Pirelli's ... I was thinking of getting the PIRELLI SCORPION AS PLUS 3 for my ascent 2020 touring ..thoughts?
 

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why don't you like the Pirelli's ... I was thinking of getting the PIRELLI SCORPION AS PLUS 3 for my ascent 2020 touring ..thoughts?
I've mentioned that a number of times here in the forums...the Pirelli (at least a previous version of the Scorpion Verde) were the worst tire I ran on my previous vehicle for wear so that left a bad taste in my mouth. I generally get really good tread wear on tire because of my driving habits, but in the past 11 years, the Pirelli was the only one that didn't last/wear well. Even the OEM Falkens on the Ascent and the OEM GY Forteras on my previous vehicle way outlasted them. But perhaps I just got a bad set...I don't know.
 

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I've mentioned that a number of times here in the forums...the Pirelli (at least a previous version of the Scorpion Verde) were the worst tire I ran on my previous vehicle for wear so that left a bad taste in my mouth. I generally get really good tread wear on tire because of my driving habits, but in the past 11 years, the Pirelli was the only one that didn't last/wear well. Even the OEM Falkens on the Ascent and the OEM GY Forteras on my previous vehicle way outlasted them. But perhaps I just got a bad set...I don't know.
ok, thank you for the information
 

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I've mentioned that a number of times here in the forums...the Pirelli (at least a previous version of the Scorpion Verde) were the worst tire I ran on my previous vehicle for wear so that left a bad taste in my mouth. I generally get really good tread wear on tire because of my driving habits, but in the past 11 years, the Pirelli was the only one that didn't last/wear well. Even the OEM Falkens on the Ascent and the OEM GY Forteras on my previous vehicle way outlasted them. But perhaps I just got a bad set...I don't know.
I've noticed that with Pirelli's too. I had a pair on my Nissan Murano and they didn't last long at all. In a completely different scenario I also tried Pirelli's on my M3 years ago and same thing - they didn't last long at all. I quit buying them after those 2 incidents because they cost just as much as Michelin's and don't perform nearly as well.
 

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I too considered the Scorpion Verde Plus 2's along with the Continental LX25's & the Michelin Crossclimate 2's. They got pretty good test results on Tire Rack. Once upon a time, on a car long, long gone, I had a set of Pirelli's. At first they were great. Then after some wear they became very noisy & hard riding. That left a bad taste in my mouth regarding Pirelli. I know times & technology have changed. I really was leaning toward the Scorpion Verdes until the Continentals & Michelins came along. At that point I dropped the Pirellis from consideration. After a lot of internal back & forth I went with the Crossclimate 2s. They are just as quiet as the Falkens & absorb road perfections much better.
 

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I’ve been trying to follow various threads on the forum for tire recommendations. Our driving is mostly highway in South Texas with occasional trips to the West and Mid West so snow happens. The Subaru dealer is recommending Goodyear Assurance Weather Ready. Tire Rack says Goodyear Assurance Comfort Cruisers or Michelin Cross Climate 2. Is there a consensus on which set is generally the quietest?
 

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I live in East Tennessee and we have weather ready's on my wife's outback (about 30k miles now), good wear, good tires, a little noisy but not bad. I have the Comforts on my Ascent for about 2000 miles now and they are very quite and smooth. Good in rain but I haven't had them long enough to see how they would be in snow. I doubt as good as Cross Climates 2 but I like the quite and smooth ride. We will drive the Outback if they don't do well in weather lol.
 

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Reading the online comparison taught me that there isn’t much difference between the comfort cruisers and weather ready especially in wet/dry performance. The biggest difference was the lack of off road performance for the comfort cruiser which may be a predictor of snow performance. That negative was countered by the increased mileage rating 85K versus 75K. However your experience with the noise is note worthy. Thanks
 

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I need to update my post my tires are not comfort cruisers they are Comfort drive, the stated mileage stuck in my head because it seemed higher than the tire I purchased. My tires are rated at 60k.
 

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Spend some time here in this forum area reading all the tire recommendations... ;) Your shopping list will be comprehensive for sure. And I don't recommend the Pirelli you mentioned.

Many folks are choosing All-Weather tires instead of All-Season tires at this point if they have four seasons including the colder ones. The two types are not the same thing.

I'd be on Michelin Defender LTX if they were available in OEM size for the 20" wheels. Since they are not, I opted for the BFG Advantage T/A Sport which is All-Weather, M&S+3 Peaks.
Hi Jim in PA Just was talking to the Michelin "Concierge Service". A 245/50R/20 Defender 2, with a 80,000 mile warranty is scheduled for dealer release September 1st. I was about to pull the trigger on Cross Climate 2's but may wait as the representative thought they would be quieter, last longer and are not directional and I don't need a heavy snow tire. Any thoughts ?
 
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