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I love the way the bar is situated in this picture and I was thinking of putting a Diode Dynamics bar with a full flood pattern down there the same as shown. I was just wondering if this would block any important intakes or cause any issues with cooling? I've been told the intake for the turbo pulls directly from down there so I hope putting a bar there as pictured wouldn't block the flow of air to the point that it would hinder my engine's performance.

The bar pictured is an SS30". I could always go with the SS18" instead, but if I can fit the 30 there with no problems, then why not.
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For a Flood bar, even being situated so low, I imagine it would still work great for up close "area" lighting. Does everyone agree with that sentiment?
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I'd go for it. A number of people including myself, have put screens in that area to protect the condenser with no noticeable difference in heat or performance. If you are a trail rider, I imagine the light would be super useful.
 

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I have mine set up similarly and haven’t noticed temp issues.

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Nice! Love the look. Do you have the combo bar down there or the flood? With just that bar on, how is light output (from being down so low -- any plusses or minuses to being so low)?

With the other bar, do the two of them work well together? Does one pick up the slack where the other falls short?
 

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Nice! Love the look. Do you have the combo bar down there or the flood? With just that bar on, how is light output (from being down so low -- any plusses or minuses to being so low)?

With the other bar, do the two of them work well together? Does one pick up the slack where the other falls short?
Thanks! I am currently running combo on both the 42” up top and “30 below. These come in White (9800 lm) vs the Amber (5600 lm). From everything i’ve heard and read, I decide on the amber because of the part of the country I live in. The lower output seems to work better in heavy fog, rain, and snow. The more intense the light in those conditions, the more visual noise.

I would say if you find yourself more often than not on roads/trails with heavy weather, go amber. If you prefer seeing further distances, go white. In my experience, the lower bar is better for cutting through dust, fog, and snow close range. I use the bar up top on clear nights. They do work pretty well together. I hope that helps!
 

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Thanks! I am currently running combo on both the 42” up top and “30 below. These come in White (9800 lm) vs the Amber (5600 lm). From everything i’ve heard and read, I decide on the amber because of the part of the country I live in. The lower output seems to work better in heavy fog, rain, and snow. The more intense the light in those conditions, the more visual noise.

I would say if you find yourself more often than not on roads/trails with heavy weather, go amber. If you prefer seeing further distances, go white. In my experience, the lower bar is better for cutting through dust, fog, and snow close range. I use the bar up top on clear nights. They do work pretty well together. I hope that helps!
Nice. Well, I do have an SS30 driving bar (white) in my upper grille, which is great, but I've been wishing for more side to side light. That's why I was thinking of putting a Flood bar down low (in white). I figured the two of them together would give me a strong overall Combo effect.

I have SS3 max fogs in yellow in the factory fog spot. That's basically my yellow for when I need yellow. The rest I'd like to keep white for trail riding and camping and whatnot (since the weather in my area isn't quite that heavy). I'm just on the fence if I should put Flood or Combo down low. (Obviously leaning Flood but I'm still considering Combo -- I just don't know with being so low if I would lose a portion of the benefit of Combo)

If you ever get a chance can you post some pictures showing the light spread from just the bottom bar (looking forward away from the car)? :)
 

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Nice. Well, I do have an SS30 driving bar (white) in my upper grille, which is great, but I've been wishing for more side to side light. That's why I was thinking of putting a Flood bar down low (in white). I figured the two of them together would give me a strong overall Combo effect.

I have SS3 max fogs in yellow in the factory fog spot. That's basically my yellow for when I need yellow. The rest I'd like to keep white for trail riding and camping and whatnot (since the weather in my area isn't quite that heavy). I'm just on the fence if I should put Flood or Combo down low. (Obviously leaning Flood but I'm still considering Combo -- I just don't know with being so low if I would lose a portion of the benefit of Combo)

If you ever get a chance can you post some pictures showing the light spread from just the bottom bar (looking forward away from the car)? :)
I plan to hit the trails this weekend. I'll make sure to take a few shots for ya.

edit: I should have asked earlier. Have you consider ditch lights? I’ve never run them personally but, imagine it would give you the wider range of coverage if ya mount them on your hood or your mirrors.
 

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If you do install a light bar, please don't drive on city streets with them. Not only does it look stupid, but its usually blinding drivers. So many people driving with light bars that essentially would be better off driving with their brights on.
 

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I plan to hit the trails this weekend. I'll make sure to take a few shots for ya.

edit: I should have asked earlier. Have you consider ditch lights? I’ve never run them personally but, imagine it would give you the wider range of coverage if ya mount them on your hood or your mirrors.
No, I share the vehicle with my wife and she doesn't want ditch lights. But as long as I keep things up front and relatively out of sight, I'm good. So pretty much the only spot I'm left with is that second grille down low. :LOL:

I suppose I could put some SS3's down there and point them out a bit, but overall I think it would be cheaper just to get a bar and call it good. So as long as there's no issues with the SS30 blocking air, I'll likely go with that.
 

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If you do install a light bar, please don't drive on city streets with them. Not only does it look stupid, but its usually blinding drivers. So many people driving with light bars that essentially would be better off driving with their brights on.
lol, no worries. The last thing I want to do is get pop'd on the street with my bars on and be forced to remove them.
 

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How did you mount the lower bar on the bumper?

Thanks! I am currently running combo on both the 42” up top and “30 below. These come in White (9800 lm) vs the Amber (5600 lm). From everything i’ve heard and read, I decide on the amber because of the part of the country I live in. The lower output seems to work better in heavy fog, rain, and snow. The more intense the light in those conditions, the more visual noise.

I would say if you find yourself more often than not on roads/trails with heavy weather, go amber. If you prefer seeing further distances, go white. In my experience, the lower bar is better for cutting through dust, fog, and snow close range. I use the bar up top on clear nights. They do work pretty well together. I hope that helps!
 

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How did you mount the lower bar on the bumper?
That took a little bit of measuring, praying, cutting, and drilling.

Facing the vehicle, on the left there was some cutting only because of the size of the light bar. You can get away without cutting if you go with a smaller bar.
Facing the vehicle, on the right is where one hole was drilled. You don’t have to do the left because there is an opening that allows a bolt to go through to mount if you go with the 30”. If you go smaller than 30”, you will likely have to drill one hole on each side.

With that said, I’m sure there are better and cleaner ways to make this work. This is how I chose to do it based on my limited skills and tools.
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That took a little bit of measuring, praying, cutting, and drilling.

Facing the vehicle, on the left there was some cutting only because of the size of the light bar. You can get away without cutting if you go with a smaller bar.
Facing the vehicle, on the right is where one hole was drilled. You don’t have to do the left because there is an opening that allows a bolt to go through to mount if you go with the 30”. If you go smaller than 30”, you will likely have to drill one hole on each side.

With that said, I’m sure there are better and cleaner ways to make this work. This is how I chose to do it based on my limited skills and tools. View attachment 19957
Thanks. I'll be doing similar soon.
 

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🙌🏽 Feel free to reach out if ya have any questions. GL.
Is it necessary to remove the front bumper to put the bar down there? I am still mulling over if I'm going to add a second bar or not and if I go for it, I'd prefer to not have to remove the bumper. I just want to make it as simple and easy as possible. I figure I could cut those little plastic bar pieces that are in the way to open it up (dremel them out) and then bolt it straight on.

As for the original post where I was asking about the Flood bar, I wanted to report back than I swapped a couple of face plates on my current bar from Driving to Flood and I absolutely hated it. The light output was drastically cut down. It didn't even look good up close. It was horrendous. Now, of course it's a Flood so the output isn't going to be great, but it was way worse than I was expecting. I ended up immediately swapping it back to all Driving. For a second bar, I'd like to do a combo bar but instead of Floods on the outside I would do Wides. So it would look like Wide-Driving-Driving-Driving-Wide. Hopefully the the Wides would give me a lot better up close/side to side lighting than those garbage Floods did.
 

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Is it necessary to remove the front bumper to put the bar down there? I am still mulling over if I'm going to add a second bar or not and if I go for it, I'd prefer to not have to remove the bumper. I just want to make it as simple and easy as possible. I figure I could cut those little plastic bar pieces that are in the way to open it up (dremel them out) and then bolt it straight on.

As for the original post where I was asking about the Flood bar, I wanted to report back than I swapped a couple of face plates on my current bar from Driving to Flood and I absolutely hated it. The light output was drastically cut down. It didn't even look good up close. It was horrendous. Now, of course it's a Flood so the output isn't going to be great, but it was way worse than I was expecting. I ended up immediately swapping it back to all Driving. For a second bar, I'd like to do a combo bar but instead of Floods on the outside I would do Wides. So it would look like Wide-Driving-Driving-Driving-Wide. Hopefully the the Wides would give me a lot better up close/side to side lighting than those garbage Floods did.
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I am am not sure if you’ll have enough space to make it work without taking the bumper off. Notice on the left side, I had to make a bit of room by cutting away some. I found it much easier to measure things out with the bumper completely off. I wanted to make sure I only had to drill once on the Right side. GL!
 

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I am am not sure if you’ll have enough space to make it work without taking the bumper off. Notice on the left side, I had to make a bit of room by cutting away some. I found it much easier to measure things out with the bumper completely off. I wanted to make sure I only had to drill once on the Right side. GL!
I see. Thanks for the heads up. Looking at yours, I'd like to have mine more forward set. So it looks like I'll have to drill two new holes. I wonder if I can make it work without having to cut away the plastic pieces? I kind of doubt it based on the depth of the lightbar and how shallow the plastic pieces are.

With your yellow bar set so low it must make for a great fog light. Do you know if it's legal to have that bar all the time like regular fog lights or is like a normal lightbar where you can't have it on on paved roads? If it's legal just like regular fogs, I might do something like this for a future setup (use a 30" yellow bar for fogs rather than standard fog lights). I imagine it helps way better than just the two fog pods.
 
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