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Hey all I went ahead and pulled the trigger on a 2020 Taxa Mantis and am picking up tomorrow morning. After a lot of debating about a good travel trailer that the wife and I, our 2 daughters and a dog can camp comfortably, with the option to camp remotely when we like, this option was perfect for us. Yes its pricey, yes it is infinitely customizable to suit your needs. Any way I will add more info if anyone is interested. Once the wallet recovers for a bit hoping to get some A/T tires next with the Eibach springs to take it out on some remote BLM sites.

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Taxa has been on my radar since the Cricket came out around 10 years ago. The design/space use Garrett F. brought to the market with the Cricket can now be seen in many lightweight trailers.

With being able to park the Mantis in a home garage you'll recoup the cost difference before long.

There is supposedly a very active Taxa Facebook community which I can't confirm as I won't do Facebook.
 

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SO looking forward to your feedback and pics!!! Alas, the closest dealership to me is well over 200 miles away, so I can't easily check one out.
 

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Wow...that's a pretty thoughtfully designed trailer with a lot of features in a compact and low to the ground configuration. I can see why an Ascent owner would enjoy towing one of these for sure! I'm not into camping, but I do see there's a dealer not all that far from where we live here in SE PA.
 

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Well sorry for the late response! Was camping for 4 days. : )

So obviously VERY excited about this trailer so I will try and calm down a bit in the post.

Felt really great behind the ascent, (dry weight ~2800lbs) I was worried about not having extended mirrors...not a problem. You could feel it back there around town but not really on the freeway. Pulled really great. The only thing I have been thinking about is this CURT ROCKERBALL to reduce all the jarring.

2. This trailer is legit. No it does not have a huge "normal at home" feeling to it, but there is almost no plastic in it all steel aluminum and a hell of a lot of rivets. Plus @2800lbs dry and the option to sleep 8 if needed nothing else comes close. Nothing to really wear out, nothing can get "damaged" to the interior. Thoughtfully designed and feels like a tank. It really showcases bringing the outdoors in.

3. If you want to drain your bank account, but have a trailer that is built to last, and easy to pull behind almost any Subaru, Taxa makes some amazing products.

Next projects is deciding between Eibach springs to get some A/T tires, or adding solar and front load bars to the Mantis.

Any other questions let me know! Happy to encourage any others on the fence, to just do it.

I will update after our trip from SoCal to Idaho for 10 days!

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2. This trailer is legit. No it does not have a huge "normal at home" feeling to it, but there is almost no plastic in it all steel aluminum and a hell of a lot of rivets. Plus @2800lbs dry and the option to sleep 8 if needed nothing else comes close. Nothing to really wear out, nothing can get "damaged" to the interior. Thoughtfully designed and feels like a tank. It really showcases bringing the outdoors in.

3. If you want to drain your bank account, but have a trailer that is built to last, and easy to pull behind almost any Subaru, Taxa makes some amazing products.
These points are what I keep sticking on. I want most of whatever trailer I buy to be recyclable when it wears out. Leaving me with pretty much Taxa or Airstream.

The RV industry doesn't seemed to have embraced sustainability very much. The industry has some good lightweight materials in fiberglass and Adzel but neither are recycle friendly.
 

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Usually, any jarring is due to looseness between the ball adapter and receiver. You might consider an anti-rattle device, such as:

I second that. Once I eliminated my hitch-to-receiver rattling, all the jarringness disappeared.

Well, almost. I also had to get the trailer brakes calibrated correctly. IIRC, you have the neat wireless brake controller (I'd love to see pics of that and learn how it hooks up and works), but the concept is the same.
 

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I second that. Once I eliminated my hitch-to-receiver rattling, all the jarringness disappeared.

Well, almost. I also had to get the trailer brakes calibrated correctly. IIRC, you have the neat wireless brake controller (I'd love to see pics of that and learn how it hooks up and works), but the concept is the same.
Just came to this thread to ask about the wireless brakes on the Mantis. It looks like you use a key fob remote for setting it up. Autowbrake
 

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That's a great looking trailer, but I'm curious as to what the tongue weight is when loaded for the road.
Curious about that too. Here is what is on the Taxa site-

Tongue Weight (depends on loading) ---- 440lbs

No idea if that is empty or a max number. The Mantis' max weight is 3970lbs and people do put hitch tongue bike racks on there so I'm going to guess that is max tongue weight.
 

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FWIW: A rack with 2 bikes can easily eat up 100 lb of tongue capacity. Our two mtbs and rack are ~100 lb. Put the bikes behind the trailer and it will reduce tongue weight.
 

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FWIW: A rack with 2 bikes can easily eat up 100 lb of tongue capacity. Our two mtbs and rack are ~100 lb. Put the bikes behind the trailer and it will reduce tongue weight.
I just rebalance the trailer.
 

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I read somewhere that European Caravans have the axle forward of where American trailers do to keep weight off the tongue. Anyone have any idea/knowledge as to the truth of that claim?
No knowledge, sorry. Maybe someone else does.
 

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I read somewhere that European Caravans have the axle forward of where American trailers do to keep weight off the tongue. Anyone have any idea/knowledge as to the truth of that claim?
It's true. It's also true for Euro horse trailers which can be pulled safely with much more modest vehicles. Tongue weights are much lower with Euro trailers because of their design, both in materials and balance point. They also require inertial brakes...no electric brakes. Speeds are limited more for towing "over there", too.

Folks in Europe don't tend to have big, beefy vehicles because of fuel consumption and taxes. So the trailer industry caters better to that market.
 
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Good safe towing dynamics still require the tongue weight to be 10-15% of the trailer weight whether in North America or Europe. The physics is the same.

The CG of the trailer including the stuff in and on it needs to be 10-15% in front of the axle to achieve this. You can move stuff around in/on the trailer to acheive that, or move the axle to achieve that, if the axle is moveable.
 

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Curious about that too. Here is what is on the Taxa site-

Tongue Weight (depends on loading) ---- 440lbs

No idea if that is empty or a max number. The Mantis' max weight is 3970lbs and people do put hitch tongue bike racks on there so I'm going to guess that is max tongue weight.

My guess (and it's only a guess and unless the manufacturer states otherwise), is that the 440 lbs is a "dry" tongue weight. Assuming this manufacturer's specs are like what most other manufacturer's I've encountered in listing their unit specs, filled propane tanks and a battery are in addition. Assuming that's the case, then that would put an unloaded trailer at the max or near the 500lb maximum tongue limit for the Ascent. Add on a tongue mounted bike rack and you are easily over that 500lb limit. Some people, rightfully so, suggest judicious loading of the camper behind the axle. I understand that, but the profile picture I see of this model shows a longer distance from the axle to the hitch when compared to the distance from the axle to the tail end of the camper, meaning it's going to take more weight in the back end to offset any "overweight" configuration on the front end.
 
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