GRIP GRIP GRIPI was curious and I just looked at Discount tire options for an Ascent summer tire and found that they offer one at $330/each and with a laughable 20,000 mile tread warranty. Why in the world would anyone buy this?
https://www.discounttire.com/buy-tires/michelin-pilot-sport-4-suv/p/42872. I guess when the time comes I will go with a good high temp all season. For now I am with the OEM and soon to change over into winter tire mode.
Are you happy with their warm weather performance? How many miles do the last?Yes, my MKZ ( don't ask, came from the factory that way) and Vette have hi po summer tires. The manufacturers actually state the tires are no good below 45f in both cases.
And I can assure you that on my MKZ, I nearly died multiple times driving the summer tires in the one moderate snow we had before my winter wheels and tires came in.
I will stick with all seasons and a winter tire. Thanks. I did not get the Ascent for hard cornering, just safe handling. I also do not have the budget to change out summer tires every month of so. Weather is too variable here, even in the summer.packout - Tire life is somewhat variable - watch racing on TV, and you'll invariably come upon drivers for whom the race commentators note are "hard on tires" or "easy on tires." That's the same with us average folks driving on the street, too.
Some folks just work their tires harder than others. And the OEM Falken thread(s) we have going here testifies to this as well.
Also of big impact are differences in the vehicle fitment, as well as how the vehicle is both set up (suspension) as well as maintained (down to tire pressure).
And, of-course, if someone actually puts their vehicle on the track....that's going to throw the whole equation off.
A rough idea? That's OK - but just know that there's liable to be quite a bit of variability.
And as Percy Garris noted above, if your vehicle is shod with summer-specific tires, for the love of all that is good, don't even venture a short jaunt with it should you get caught-out with an unexpected weather change. In the clear (without frozen precipitation - as we talked about in the other thread, packout, and in the videos that I refernced via SubaruForester.org), you'll be OK as long as you give an extra bit of reactionary distance...but look anywhere where folks talk about their experiences on summer-tires on ice or in snow, and you'll find the same tales of woe, with most drivers making references to hockey pucks.
That some race/race-capable tires require storage above freezing is one thing - not getting home because you've crashed or worse caused a collision on even just more pedestrian summer tires....that's just trouble no-one needs.
The wifey's '16 WRX came off-lease in March, and we decided that due to foreseeable events, we were going to take delivery of her replacement '19 WRX in February. We picked a day where there was no snow on the ground, and we left bright and early to get the old car safely down to the dealership and the new one home, where I popped on its winters immediately. Had there been snow on the ground, we'd either have waited, or I'd have thrown the '16's factory summers and my tools in the Ascent, and did a swap in their delivery bay.
My '16 OB came off-lease in November. I'll give everyone here two guesses what was on my doorsteps not a week after I took delivery of the Ascent.
I love summer tires, and the couple of days I spent at the Dubai Autodrome courtesy of Michelin and TireRack opened my eyes to their capabilities to a degree that I didn't imagine possible for street vehicles on street tires.
Unless you want to participate in autosports with your Ascent, I really don't feel that summer tires are necessary. For street driving, our OE Falkens are not half bad at all.
But if you've got a high-performance vehicle in the stable that's destined for a fun life, tire upgrades really should always be in your budget.
It's just like having winter tires, packout, which you have experience with - but flip the season and the purpose.
Nah, you don't need to change every month - they don't wear that fast ( well, unless you're driving THAT much, or THAT much/hard on a track! ).I will stick with all seasons and a winter tire. Thanks. I did not get the Ascent for hard cornering, just safe handling. I also do not have the budget to change out summer tires every month of so. Weather is too variable here, even in the summer.
I will have to remind my 16 year old of this when he end up purchasing his dream WRX. He wanted one now, but I knew that was not going to happen for all sorts of common sense practical reasons that parents tend to focus on. He ended up with buying a 2018 Impreza. The WRX can happen after 300,000 miles of Impreza.Nah, you don't need to change every month - they don't wear that fast ( well, unless you're driving THAT much, or THAT much/hard on a track! ).
And honestly, the vast majority of street-oriented summer tires will perform very admirably in the wet. As with any other sector of the market, wet performance is something that many drivers want, so much so that the enlargement of the performance envelope can actually make many of these summer tires "safer" than all-season tires in anything but really cold weather (but again, for street-oriented tires of this genre, it's not like they'll just turn into a pumpkin when a magical temperature is reached) and/or on frozen precipitation.
As Percy Garris so well noted, to even remotely approach the limits of these tires on public roads is really courting disaster. Even the most forgiving (those that audibly complain well short of their actual limits and/or have limits that only gradually lets go, rather than "awesome..awesome..awesome...oh no!" type of sudden) of these tires typically have limits so high that the car's really going to be at pretty high velocities - it'll go against every ounce of self-preservation instinct most reasonable folks have. Just like winter tires, I find it's better to simply replace the word "performance" with the word "safety." A larger performance envelope directly equates to a larger margin of safety. And for drivers who intend to stay within that envelope - i.e. no hooning - justifying the purchase of these tires by suggesting to your significant other/Household-6 wouldn't be lying.
There is often a compromise, though, again as Percy Garris pointed out. Sure, the expense is one thing, and so is the trouble of having to rotate between two sets of tires....but the real toll may be a very real, every-day NVH impact that can make the driver's otherwise very reasonable everyday commute and turn it into something that's only barely tolerable.