Well, first I would like to thank this Forum and its members as a positive (so far) resource in my new car search. We have two Honda’s in our family, great cars! But, I’m in search to replace ‘09 Pilot. It took a couple years of searching and waiting for the next new model & refresh, it had come down to VW or another Honda. Then I heard about the forthcoming Subaru Ascent and eventually this site. We want a car that is safe and offers a lot of safety accessories (its a senior citizen thing), reliable because we keep cars along time (>150K mi w/0 defects), low maintenance (just oil, tires, ect), comfortable (fits 6 adults & 1 child on family trips to local events), efficient (87 octane and gets mileage trips >25), handles well (also have a Z4), flexible (holds a lot of luggage and stuff), quiet (we listen to a lot of audiobooks), nice interior /exterior (my wife says I am aesthetic deficient), a little offroad (beach), price competitive, and assembled in the USA, in that priority (subject to change). I’ll cut to the chase, in my humble opinion, this new Subaru Ascent appears to fit the bill with one major concern. Even thou 90% of Subaru’s are still on the road, Reliability of this new powertrain is my concern. Having applied my 80/20 rule, I preordered an Ascent Touring with Assessories. Now I wait (probably Sept) and continue my research (test drives, inspections, negotiations) and reading this forum, for reasons why I should consider changing my mind and ask for the refund. I don’t like to switch or settle for equal/lesser value. If you got this far, again, thank you all for your input and time (god this is a lot longer then planned but therapeutic).