Not really. Actual problems are only in a relatively few vehicles affected by the recall which is primarily an inspection and reprogramming exercise unless damage is observed in the inspection.I have the notice of recall. I can only remember one time where the vehicle made kind of a shuddering sound as it started off, after I went from Reverse to Drive. I don't recall it happening again. Is there any cause for concern?
Your factory warranty is absolutely not up at the end of the month, unless you're talking by mileage, so, don't worry over that. Powertrain warranty is 5 years/60,000 miles. And, as said by others, earlier, you're covered, regardless of warranty - all recalls are free, regardless of warranty.Dropped by the dealer for an oil change earlier this week - service manager told me they don't expect to have the tools to perform this recall work until June or July.
Getting nervous as 1) my factory warranty is up at the end of this month and 2) have a long distance trip planned at the end of May. To the best of my knowledge, have not experienced any slippage symptoms, but this is not my daily driver. The vehicle has very few miles given its age (12k in 3yrs). Should I be concerned about taking this trip?
I seriously doubt that will change either. The CVT chain was literally mathematically designed to make that sound, because it was the most pleasing of the possible sounds it could make. 13+ years later, they're not revisiting it.Something else that annoys me is that it still has that power steering pump type whine, even when warmed up.
We've got electric power steering, so no pump. I'm not saying it wouldn't whine though... I had an old hydraulic steering car before that would make groaning noises.Something else that annoys me is that it still has that power steering pump type whine, even when warmed up.
I believe he was comparing the cvt whine to an old-school power steering pump whine. Maybe those of us who’ve experienced an actual power steering pump whine are scarred for life 😂We've got electric power steering, so no pump. I'm not saying it wouldn't whine though... I had an old hydraulic steering car before that would make groaning noises.
Studebakers with the Borg Warner auto trans quack like a duck when the fluid is low. I'll put up with the whine rather than have bystanders search for mallards when I put the car in Drive...lolI believe he was comparing the cvt whine to an old-school power steering pump whine. Maybe those of us who’ve experienced an actual power steering pump whine are scarred for life 😂
It’s the nature of a hydraulic pump 🤷♂️
Ah yes. I missed that they said power steering pump type whine. My mistake.I believe he was comparing the cvt whine to an old-school power steering pump whine. Maybe those of us who’ve experienced an actual power steering pump whine are scarred for life 😂
It’s the nature of a hydraulic pump 🤷♂️
PS Call the dealer first, they may want to flatbed tow it if it is as bad as you describe. If you try to drive it, it could fail completely at an inopportune time/place. Please keep us posted and good luck, I'm confident they will make it right.
My dealership has yet to get any of the special tools and training. If you are having severe symptoms, I would bring it in and they will probably replace the CVT. It depends on the severity and safety. If you are under the original warranty, there is no requirement for you to wait.�
Robert. Any idea when parts and repairs will be available for this recall. My car is getting so bad we do t drive it anymore. Thanks, NTD
I haven’t seen any issues with mine; although my 2019 VIN is included in the recall and I just purchased it. Remedy still not available, and I’ve driven it a lot.. question is: if I have a long trip coming up with my 2 year old daughter, should I abstain from driving?RECALL: WRK21 / NHTSA Campaign 21V955000 - Ascent CVT Chain Slip/Chain Guide Breakage
- Type: Safety
- Safety Recall: WRK21
- NHTSA Campaign: 21V955000
- Date: December 9, 2021
- Title: Ascent CVT Chain Slip/Chain Guide Breakage
- Remedy: Open - remedy not yet available
RECALL DOCUMENT FILES:
Vehicle Specifics (aka: "Part 573 Safety Recall Report"):
The NHTSA Summary was poorly written by NHTSA and confusingly describes the situation. By "improperly secured chain" they mean that the programming doesn't properly set/maintain chain clamping pressure.
All Subaru Ascents that had the previous CVT programming/chain slip recall completed are a part of this recall.
Subaru of America, Inc. (Subaru) is initiating a new safety and emissions Recall for certain 2019 - 2020 model year Ascent vehicles, 2020 model year turbo Legacy vehicles, and 2020 model year turbo Outback vehicles in which the Continuously Variable Transmission (CVT) chain may slip and/or break.
Due to an improper program, the CVT chain may slip, resulting in breakage of the chain guide. If the chain guide breaks, fragments of the guide could inhibit the shift select mechanism. If the vehicle continues operation with the drive chain slipping, over time the CVT drive chain could break.
For all potentially affected vehicles, Subaru dealers will reprogram the TCU. The historical TCU data will be analyzed for chain slip characteristics and the chain guide will be visually inspected. If vehicles are confirmed to be experiencing drive chain slip or if the chain guide is damaged, the transmission assembly will be replaced. For each potentially affected vehicle, all remedy repairs necessary will be completed at no cost to the customer.
As required by Federal Regulations, everyone will get physical old-school mail notifications from Subaru of America, within the NHTSA required notification period - and then receive app and head unit notifications.
If you don't feel like waiting to find out, you can check online on Subaru's website.
The remedy is supposed to be available April 2022. As I'd said earlier, my expectation was that Subaru needs the time to release the final programming and get enough of the test tools to all dealerships. That's confirmed in their letter to NHTSA.
Due to an improper program, if the shift select was moved to drive or reverse (D or R) immediately after the engine was started, the independent secondary pressure control program may allow the forward/reverse clutch (“F/R clutch”) to begin engagement before enough secondary clamping pressure has been applied to the drive chain.Short version: instead of surge filling the pulleys and then engaging the forward/reverse clutch, it engaged the clutch that sends power through the variators to wheels early.
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CarFax, KBB and the other sites are NOT fully accurate. The only accurate places are Subaru Recall page (link above), Subaru app (once physical notifications are sent), and NHTSA.
More details to follow soon...
Mine is one of the affected cars, and I will likely be getting a new CVT.
THERE ARE ONLY THREE CATEGORIES...
@E-EC-ECU perfectly describes the three categories those of us with 2019 and 2020 Ascents fall into
(2021+ Ascent owners have the new programming, and this doesn't apply)
Here's what he wrote, below:
There are three categories of people when it regards to your Ascent and this recall. Just three!1.) Your car is exhibiting the same behavior advertised in the recall for a slipping CVT chain and/or the guide has been impacted and/or broken off. Or, your transmission is a complete mess and your car is "undriveable".
- For these folks ... take your car in to the dealership to get inspected and fixed. If it is actively slipping the CVT chain and the transmission is not performing correctly, Subaru will replace the CVT.
- Yes, you will get a new CVT WITH the new programming as it has already been made available (thanks @Robert.Mauro). If it is a completely separate issue and is still undriveable ... they will fix that too (just like they have been doing for 3 years now).2.) (My situation) Your car exhibits some "weird" behavior from time to time (rpm instability, shuddering, "searching for gears"), and you think, "heck this might fix all of that".
- For this set of people ... keep driving your car and take it in when the recall is made available to you.
- BUT ... If this group ever finds themselves in a situation where their CVT fails and they are now a member of Group 1 (above) ... TAKE IT IN. They aren't going to wait for this recall to fix your car if your CVT is shot. The recall is about inspection subsequent repair if diagnosed. It does not delay any repairs for a known issue.3.) (These folks I truly feel sorry for) Your car exhibits ZERO indications from this recall, and you are trying to sell it.
- Not much I can say about this group because the used car market is so high right now, and to NOT be able to sell a car based on a recall that can't be fixed yet is unfortunate .. to say the least. I feel for this group.The main thing to remember is that this recall is to inspect and diagnose all the potential vehicles impacted by this particular set of circumstances. Hence the tools and equipment being manufactured and delivered to simply make this inspection. If you won't drive your car because of the faulty transmission with a thrown guide arm and other major problems, this recall is completely secondary to your current situation. The recall is simply to inspect the transmissions of applicable cars and proactively replace any CVT that shows indicators.Basically, if your transmission is a major problem right now, go get it fixed. They aren't going to reference this recall when trying to delay any fix. This recall isn't about the actual transmission repair (CVT replacement), rather it's the inspection and analysis to make sure they catch all transmissions that are exhibiting the behavior. Then, applying the actual repair.
Asked and answered many times...no, you do not need to refrain from driving unless you have clear indication that your vehicle has slipping and if so, it needs to be addressed immediately. This recall is for inspection and software primarily for the majority of VINs that it applies to. Only a small percentage of VINs have actual damaged caused by the software issue.should I abstain from driving?
remedy has been fully developed, just not distributed to dealers yet.I haven’t seen any issues with mine; although my 2019 VIN is included in the recall and I just purchased it. Remedy still not available, and I’ve driven it a lot.. question is: if I have a long trip coming up with my 2 year old daughter, should I abstain from driving?