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The fuel pump manufacturer is used by many car brands. Toyota is also recalling many fuel pumps. I would be more concerned if I owned a brand that was not recalling faulty fuel pumps. BTW mine is at the dealer getting a new fuel pump now. I am enjoying putting miles on my loaner car and figuring out what changed for 2020.
 

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The fuel pump manufacturer is used by many car brands. Toyota is also recalling many fuel pumps. I would be more concerned if I owned a brand that was not recalling faulty fuel pumps. BTW mine is at the dealer getting a new fuel pump now. I am enjoying putting miles on my loaner car and figuring out what changed for 2020.
Not that it really matters for the purpose of the fuel pump supplier, but Toyota owns Subaru.
 

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it will not matter either way because any faulty part within the fuel pump housing will be replaced.
its matter to me ... it's 6th time i have to leave car at the dealer in last 5 month and hope mechanic is able to reassemble pump correctly... and still have 3 more problems they cant address (cant replicate etc...)
anyhow i left car last Friday permanently... trade it in for a new one
 

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its matter to me ... it's 6th time i have to leave car at the dealer in last 5 month and hope mechanic is able to reassemble pump correctly... and still have 3 more problems they cant address (cant replicate etc...)
anyhow i left car last Friday permanently... trade it in for a new one
Sorry the dealership staff was not up to the task. Glad you got your end resolved. I would move on to a different dealership for service. There is not much to a fuel pump. It should not have been a challenge for any mechanic worth their salary.

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Sorry the dealership staff was not up to the task. Glad you got your end resolved. I would move on to a different dealership for service. There is not much to a fuel pump. It should not have been a challenge for any mechanic worth their salary.

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not much and yet 42 pages instructions...

dealer did fine but it still 8 different problems in Ascent and 0 in Forester both are new 1st year model
 

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One more thing. When I got the car back, the LED display in the instrument cluster looked different. Same info toggle through, but it has a slightly different look. I wonder if they updated the software. I'll have to look at the receipt.
 

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Not exactly. Toyota owns 17% share of Subaru. That's hardly owns Subaru outright. It's a minority share.
It was increased to 20% and Subaru is also now officially part of Toyota Group as of February.
 

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"Not that it really matters for the purpose of the fuel pump supplier, but Toyota owns Subaru." As an FYI: Toyota does not "own" Subaru, but has a 20% interest in Subaru :)
 

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It was increased to 20% and Subaru is also now officially part of Toyota Group as of February.
"What will the expanded partnership mean for Subaru models like the 2020 Outback, Forester, Crosstrek, and Ascent?
This is what won’t happen. Subaru will not be absorbed into Toyota Motor and become a fully owned subsidiary at least not in the immediate future. But Seeking Alpa says Subaru is expected to become “an affiliated company of Toyota down the road.” They won’t be building more vehicles together that will share identical styling but have different nameplates like the Subaru BRZ/Toyota 86 sport coupes. But big changes are coming to Subaru.

What it will mean is Toyota’s larger stake will create new opportunities for the much smaller Subaru with its existing models and new models will be coming. Subaru announced recently, by 2030, 40 percent of all Subaru global sales will come from electric vehicles (EVs) or hybrid electric vehicles (HEVs). By the first half of the 2030s, all Subaru vehicles sold worldwide will have some form of hybrid power or all-electric technology. Subaru will need Toyota’s hybrid technology to do this.
What does the increased Toyota stake mean for SUV shoppers?
The newly-increased partnership will bring more new all-wheel-drive models like the Crosstrek Plug-In Hybrid launched last year. Subaru will be able to expand the use of the Toyota Hybrid System in other Subaru models like the Outback, Forester, and Ascent models."

 

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Probably supplier cost advantages, depending on how closely they work together. Being part of a larger organization can help with things like that. I suspect that Toyota knows that Subaru has a "special place" in the market and hopefully, will keep things fairly independent in that respect while providing behind the scenes advantages where possible to do so.
 

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Subaru is not in the business to push a feature that buyers do not want unless it is mandated by government...
Yep. We're saying the same thing. They're in business to sell more vehicles/make more profit. That's not a bad thing.

FWIW: As i understand this fuel pump recall, it's due to an impeller problem on the low pressure pump, the one that move gas from the tank to the engine. The high pressure fuel injection pump is something else.
 

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Got my car back today with a new fuel pump. I took it in with 30 miles past the low fuel light coming on. The techs appreciated it enough to thank me. There was no fuel smell.

One big advantage to the Coronavirus time is my car came back looking really cleaned. It was filthy after a day at the beach when I took it to them. I felt a little guilty taking back a loaner car after we went exploring a national park and all its dirt roads.
 

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Got my car back today with a new fuel pump. I took it in with 30 miles past the low fuel light coming on. The techs appreciated it enough to thank me. There was no fuel smell.

One big advantage to the Coronavirus time is my car came back looking really cleaned. It was filthy after a day at the beach when I took it to them. I felt a little guilty taking back a loaner car after we went exploring a national park and all its dirt roads.
I wish I would have told them not to do it. My tank was right at the half mark which is what they said is the highest it's allowed to be. I should have told them to do it another time when I was below a 1/4 tank. I doubt the tech's had anything close by to transfer the unit into as to not douse the area around the pump with fuel. Hopefully the smell will fade away in time.
 

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My vehicle shifts smoothly and is responsive (not using paddle shifters), so I would suggest you test drive some other Ascent units to demonstrate to your dealer that your unit is not functioning properly. You also might plug in a telematic device that can record your experience as you drive (there is a thread on device options). When I need to accelerate away from a bad driver or pass a semi without lingering, I have no issues with the acceleration (not my video). It is not a Porsche, but it is more than up to the task. I have driven fast vehicles whether they were small sports cars or a large but powerful Rolls Royce and this Ascent is neither, but I knew that going into the deal (so did my wallet). The 2019 Porsche 911 GT3 RS ($145,000 and 3153 lbs) will get to 60MPH in about 3 seconds whereas the Ascent ($40,000 and 4515 lbs.) will reach that point in just under 7 seconds.
I might have to give the WOT from a dead stop a test to see if I'm anywhere near as smooth as that run. I know under Non-WOT it's bad, stumbling and hesitant. If I take it in what could they do about it, I'm thinking nothing, they will tell me it's normal or acceptable. How would they even fix something that isn't actually broke, my vehicle shifts, albeit terribly in my opinion. Normal Grandma driving it's decent, a little stumble every so often especially under very light acceleration, but not terrible. It's the worst under moderately heavy acceleration. I'm gonna give WOT a shot and see how it does.
 

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Took my Ascent in yesterday to have the battery replaced, investigate excessive brake noise, and have the PCV recall done, and the service guy said that a new recall had just released. I guess the fuel pump is garbage too. So they also replaced that. If you have a 2019 built between June 2018 and February 2019, expect to receive the recall. I am a bit shocked at all the pieces and parts that are garbage on this vehicle, new model or not, I expect better from a manufacturer with safety at the forefront.

My battery lasted less than two years, clearly it's underrated for this vehicle or it's a piece of junk. If the replacement one goes in under two years I'm thinking I'll just bite the bullet and spring for a high quality battery that will last. The brake issue was apparantly a backing plate that had shifted and needed to be put back in place. I'm not convinced it really solved the issue but the noise is less. I still hear what appears to be an oscillating noise, especially when next to another vehicle. It's kind of annoying and it's still there after their backing plate repositioning.

Lastly the CVT is still a disaster in my opinion. My loaner Forester was so much smoother and more like an actually CVT. The CVT in the Ascent sucks and shifts like a poor operating geared transmission. Slow hesitating shifts, herky jerky operation, it's just terrible. I can honestly say at just over 27K miles that my two Foresters were more enjoyable to drive. I never even thought about the CVT in them. Ever time I accelerate in the Ascent I am reminded of the piece of garbage between the engine and the wheels. They need to code an entirely new program for the Ascent CVT and make it available to anyone who wants their Ascent to act like a true CVT. I'm over these terrible fake shift points and the crappy performance of this CVT.
You may have a lemon on your hands! Maybe not according to the law, but a lemon nevertheless. I’ve owned two of these things (traded a Premium in for a Limited after 6k), and both trannys were smooth-the reason I didn’t buy a Forester with all of it’s CVT drony-ness. Turbo seems to smooth out the CVT. I have had only the occasional hiccup with transmission at low speeds where is sorta does a stutter.

I would get over the idea that all of these Ascents are filled with junk parts. The only flaws I seem to have on my 6 mo old 2020 Limited are a slightly noisy passenger seat lower control (upper quiet) and an occasional squeak from front right tire that will likely go away when brakes worn a bit more.
 
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