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Noticed that on Subaru's build & price they add a $1,050 destination charge to your estimate.

Now from what I know about Destination charges this is unique to the auto industry as every other business I know absorbs the cost of "freight in" to their inventory as part of Cost of Goods Sold.

However, this is also supposed to be the same, nationwide so there's no lower cost in Indiana where they are built, then in say Florida or California dealers.

That is until your sticker shows Transportation as (Inland Freight & Handling Charge) and comes to $1,060 for me.

I believe at this point what we have is a dealer tacking on $10 extra on top of destination and calling it "handling".
 

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Hi, no, probably not them. You live in a Subaru Distributor Corporation distribution area, so, your pricing is different. This is mentioned in the fine print on the page that indicates destination charges. SDC and SNE served customers do not necessarily pay the same amounts. In their regions, SDC and SNE act as the distributor between Subaru and they dealerships. All other regions are distributed directly from Subaru to car dealerships. Pricing may vary in other states, as well, depending on various factors I am not knowledged in.

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Of course not. You appear to make the assumption that the destination charge has some factual basis rooted in actually shipping a car. Shipping a car in the high volume that a manufacturer to a dealer would be rather low. So much so we would not be happy with the $1,050 charge if we knew how low it really is. This is just another way for auto manufacturer's to make a profit. Which I guess is a bit sneaky but if they make my car and warranty it they do deserve a profit. Just would be nice if they were a little more transparent.
 

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So in short, there's a middleman in the Northeast making port assembly being Boston, MA, and then vehicles brought to dealerships by Diversified Automotive for $1,060 but in Florida and California dealerships it's just trucked there for $1,050.

The old adage is true: add a middleman, end customer pays more.
 

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SDC Port is upstate NY, though SNE seems to have helped with some port destination work.
 

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The old adage is true: add a middleman, end customer pays more.
Pretty much. The distributorships (which are fortunately few) are independent businesses just like the dealers are independent businesses and each level can charge what they want to to their customers within their respective contractual territories/market geographies and within any rules that SOA has for that arrangement.

They are treating the destination charge like any other piece of the puzzle and apparently adding a ten buck profit on it since it's likely that SOA is charging them the $1050 standard destination fee which doesn't get discounted even direct to dealer, if I'm not mistaken.

I forget it if was here or in one of the sister Subaru forums where the history of the distributorships was detailed, but it was interesting.
 
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At first, I thought so, too... But, they're not, really. In 2011, it was $725. That's about $875 now, after adjusting for inflation, and the remaining $175 can largely be attributed to higher-than-inflationary cost increases for rail, truck and related expenses (eg: fuel for both transport industries).

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At first, I thought so, too... But, they're not, really. In 2011, it was $725. That's about $875 now, after adjusting for inflation, and the remaining $175 can largely be attributed to higher-than-inflationary cost increases for rail, truck and related expenses (eg: fuel for both transport industries).

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Good for Subaru, bucking the rest of them! Another example of how Subaru earns our trust.
 

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Remember it's also based on the size of the vehicle as when getting them on a vehicle mover less Ascents can fit (theoretically) than say Imprezas.

Impreza holds a slightly lower $925 destination charge, so I'm guessing that or insurance has something to do with it.
 
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Remember it's also based on the size of the vehicle as when getting them on a vehicle mover less Ascents can fit (theoretically) than say Imprezas.

Impreza holds a slightly lower $925 destination charge, so I'm guessing that or insurance has something to do with it.
not enough that would warrant the higher than inflation increases. thankfully Subaru is not playing that game.
 

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Everything is going up. It now costs $5000 to rent a U-haul truck to make a 1,000 mile cross country move, unless you are moving to a less desirable state such as CA, NY, NJ, etc. Too many trucks are ending up in TN, GA, AL and sitting there. Increased transportation costs are real.
 

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Hi Subaru community, please advise should I be paying for Freight/PDI fee for the service vehicle, i.e. under use by the dealership and have already miles on it. Please advise and guide me in this regard with a more concrete argument for my deal. REALLY appreciate all the help.
 

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Hi Subaru community, please advise should I be paying for Freight/PDI fee for the service vehicle, i.e. under use by the dealership and have already miles on it. Please advise and guide me in this regard with a more concrete argument for my deal. REALLY appreciate all the help.
Your laws and regulations might be different, but this may be affected by whether or not it was titled or not.
 

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Also, Subaru generally has good reliability and holds value well. However, I read about a consumer report for Subaru Ascent. It has rated Ascent as one of the most unreliable vehicles. Is this true? Can you please share your experiences and guide on this matter?
 

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Also, Subaru generally has good reliability and holds value well. However, I read about a consumer report for Subaru Ascent. It has rated Ascent as one of the most unreliable vehicles. Is this true? Can you please share your experiences and guide on this matter?
not at all. There were some recalls on my 2019 which were esentially non events. My 2019 Limited with 50000 miles has been trouble free. Robert Mauro has posted extensively along with others on the CR which when read places the report in perspective.
 

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This is helpful. Thank you. Should I expect similar issues in new models
The recalls and the TSBs took care of the issues. New models are mostly minor changes which some like and some do not. If you come across any symptoms, Just use the search engine since pretty much everything has been covered extensively. Test drive the vehicle to be certain you are comfortable with the seats (some like them and some do not like their firmness), the cvt (very reliable over many years, but some do not like the fake shifting), and I think they went in the newer models with the engine stopping at the traffic lights feature. Some prefer dial controls over the tough screen. No vehicle will meet all your preferences, but this can meet all your needs if you did your research to line them up. It is just under 5000 lbs. and an AWD, so do not expect high mileage. Do not expect performance outcome from the OEM tires. They are not designed for those purposes (no OEM tire is).

I did a ton of research on 2019 when I bought my 2019 limited captain chair version. My expectations were lined up with reality and I was not disappointing.
 

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The recalls and the TSBs took care of the issues. New models are mostly minor changes which some like and some do not. If you come across any symptoms, Just use the search engine since pretty much everything has been covered extensively. Test drive the vehicle to be certain you are comfortable with the seats (some like them and some do not like their firmness), the cvt (very reliable over many years, but some do not like the fake shifting), and I think they went in the newer models with the engine stopping at the traffic lights feature. Some prefer dial controls over the tough screen. No vehicle will meet all your preferences, but this can meet all your needs if you did your research to line them up. It is just under 5000 lbs. and an AWD, so do not expect high mileage. Do not expect performance outcome from the OEM tires. They are not designed for those purposes (no OEM tire is).

I did a ton of research on 2019 when I bought my 2019 limited captain chair version. My expectations were lined up with reality and I was not disappointing.
thanks for the feedback - much appreciated!
 
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