[securityguy]

Hello all.

I'm getting ready to buy new tires. I live in Southern California (not much rain) and use the Ascent (touring) for city driving, road trips,and camping. 95% of the trips we go on will not involve snow.

So the sales guy at American Tire recommended that I get the Michelin Primacy Tour. This makes total sense to me based on my driving conditions. But the Primacy generally gets a 3.6 out of 5 stars while the CrossClimate 2 gets an overwhelming 4.6.

Everyone talks highly of the Crossclimate 2. Is the Primacy bad? Should I go with the recommendation and get the Primacy Tour over the CrossClimate 2?

Thanks for your input. Have a great day!

I have had both and the CC2 is a far better tire.

 

[securityguy]

CC2 traction and breaking performance in rain is so awesome.

100%

 

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I’m also researching new tires. I probably have the record: under 17k on the OEM Falkens after 3 years. The dealer is too expensive and I’ve had great experiences at BJs tire center. They don’t sell Continentals at my club so I narrowed it down to Michelin Primacy Tour or Goodyear Assurance Maxlife. The Michelins dont get great reviews due to poor treadwear, which makes sense because other brands use them as OEM. I think I’m going with the Goodyears - there are several members here that have good things to say about them.

Edit: uh oh, just noticed BJs has Michelin CC2s. Everyone seems to love them but I’m worried about road noise with that tread pattern.

No road noise at all. I have them on two vehicles and quiet as can be.

 

[securityguy]

We live in the Phoenix, AZ area where (at least this last year), rain is scarce and snow is non-existent (although drive a bit north and you'll see some). Discount tire recommended the Defender 2 over the CC2, but at the end of the day the price difference for 4 was only about $150, so I went with the CC2's. Our OEM Falcons on our 2019 Touring lasted just under 30k miles, somewhat disappointing but heat here is a b***h (we see rubber tire tracks in our driveway all the time...). Yes, the Falken ride was a bit smoother, but the CC2's, while maybe an overkill for our environment, are just fine- a little harsher ride, but not unacceptable.

You made the right choice going with the CC2s.

 

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Hi TSiWRX, I completely agree. For additional context, the Ascent is my wife’s car. In 2020 it replaced a 15 year old Altima so it was a big improvement in NVH just based on age alone. As good as the CC2s seem to be, I don’t want to take a chance that she may feel it is less quiet after installing new shoes. I drive a 2007 Mazda6 and am much less concerned about NVH.

They are very quiet tires. This is my third set. The tread pattern is not like an off-road vehicle. Most tire shops will put them on, allow you to see what you think and swap them out for something else at no charge if you are unhappy. I suggest you try them before you judge on what they may or may not sound like.

 

[securityguy]

Are they quieter than the OEM factory tires?

I think so...but, worst case they are certainly no louder than stock.

 

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^ It's interesting to see the tire makers going back to the "V" shaped tread, after all this time from the Goodyear Aquatread, and are targeting specifically to be a more light-winter-capable "All Weather/All Season" goal.

It's too bad there's not been more testing about these newer V-treaded tires. The Bridgestone Touranza AS6, the WeatherActive, and the now venerable CC2 would make for an interesting shootout.

According to Tirerack, nothing appears to beat the CC2. Now, with that being said, the Pirelli Weather Active and Goodyear Aquatread were not listed. The Goodyear Assurance Weather Ready were. The Pirelli looks like a nice tire. However, based on its tread pattern, I'd bet money the CC2 would outperform it but it would be close IMPO. The General RT45 is a very good tire, it just cannot compare to the CC2 at all.

 

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Have the Auqatreads been revived? I thought they went the way of the do-do somewhere in the 2000-2002 years, domestically to North America?

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I agree - It'll be interesting to see what happens with the CC2 as they evolve for the next season. This season, there are already tires -including with traditional tread-patterns- that are knocking it off the tip of the pyramid, if not even further back. It'll be interesting to see if Michelin responds immediately, or waits another season or half-season to do so, given the fact that it's still typically a top-tier finisher, or otherwise edges the competition based on overall performance.

No idea as they were mentioned by you so I did a quick comparison check. I believe the GY Assurance Weather is their latest tire but I have never been a fan of GY tires. For me, I stick to Michelin and Continental unless someone, or a highly reputable comparison test, can sway me in another direction like Pirelli

 

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We have CrossClimate 2 tires on our 2017 subaru outback. These are good tires especially in heavy rain here in Washington State. However, after about 5,000 miles these tires developed a noticeable humming noise which has gotten considerably worse (now at 25,000 miles and 8/32 tread). Difficult to have a conversation between front seat and rear seat passengers. Did not have that issue before. Tires are in good shape, balanced just checked and is fine, wheel bearings are good. Probably going to switch to Michelin Primacy Tour A/S for a quieter ride and from research done online and questions asked at tire dealers, this is supposed to be one of the quietest tires and performs well. Any feedback on the Primacy tour tires would be appreciated.

Interesting. I think something else is going on there my friend. I have the CC2's on three vehicles now. One has them with over 40K miles and still quiet. The Ascent has them with just under 23K and still very quiet. The Impreza has about 15K on them and still very quiet. I also rotate the tires on all of my vehicles every 5K miles. I wonder if, since these tires are DIRECTIONAL, if they may have been rotated incorrectly. I have seen too many dealers and tire shops do this without realizing it. I always check before driving away. That will cause major issues with these tires.